I think the idea of Toxic Masculinity is stupid.

A Long Ramble on Why!:

I am starting to doubt there is a such a thing as toxic masculinity or what is generally described in the public forum as toxic masculinity. Frankly most of the things that are considered attributes of toxic masculinity one would consider general assholish behavior specific to natural jerks or ideas and concepts that have been for the lack of a better word “fundamentalized” by a person in similar ways that some religious doctrines are. These are issues that concern human nature overall that are being prescribed as an issue grounded in the notion of masculinity. Just as in the flawed idea that greed is an inevitable byproduct of capitalism (if it isn't regulated to merely have the shallow appearance of capitalism as some may argue)

Let's look at the concept of honor, which on its face anyone who is a believer in the ideal of masculinity would see honor in some form as a critical aspect of masculinity. Essentially/Historically one of the prime virtues of masculinity would be the concern for one's reputation for strength, courage and self discipline within the context of a group comprised primarily of other men.

Now does masculinity form the concept of honor? Women can understand the concept of honor and its antithesis in shame and humiliation right? They are not excluded from any definition of honor, and no woman of integrity would accept a disreputable reputation in public of being a general coward, weak in body, or weak-willed. To not want such a reputation are human feelings.

Now of course a man is more likely to have the ability to fight (biologically speaking) and so kill for honor than a woman would. But why? Is it simply because he's a man? Or is it because of his perspective of honor in relation to other people. The degree of which honor itself carries value in terms of men in the perspective or both men and women in societies exist for fundamental reasons that are founded in the urge for survival.

Question, is a man's need to defend his honor to the death a natural side effect to his testosterone or does he feel he has more to lose in life in the eyes of society and by extension humanity if he's dishonored?

Masculinity is not a byproduct of testosterone, masculinity is not the end-result of a men being naturally more aggressive than women. The concept of masculinity is a combination of different ideas or virtues that leads to what is to be considered a man of value, to his family, to his society, to humanity. Historically speaking has a human, shunned by his people have a good chance of survival?

Another question do ideas and perspective make people kill or do people prone to killing create ideas and perspectives to justify killing?

Masculinity (again a series of concepts) in on itself is not dangerous its in having to defend masculinity or prove one's masculinity that things get dangerous. Just as political or religious ideas are not dangerous by themselves, but defending or spreading those ideas by force can and has leads to conflict.

And the essence of the defense of masculinity, or in this specific example a defense of one's honor this is a fundamentally a desire to not being made to look weak E.G as a man who can't defend himself, his interests, his treasure, or his loved ones. And there are many reasons psychological or sociologically where a man may be forced to feel or gain the perspective that he is being made to or cannot afford to be made to look weak regardless of whether the reality of the degree of danger he is facing is legitimate or not. When one's concept of honor becomes warped or fundamentalized for a man or a woman one may be willing to kill for a pair of sneakers, or some jewelry.

If we are honest we can agree the world hasn't changed enough where a weak man is seen as having any value to society. So this basic concept of not being weak-of having worth makes people ready to kill for that.

People are ready to kill to have or prove their worth.

But you might say well it's easier now to find worth in other things than what society dictates. Or you may see there is no rational reason to insist on being see as a worthy man. That is possibly true if one has the self confidence to ground that perspective. Humans as a whole generally find happiness in the heads of other people. What we all want the most out of life, generally, is for people to see us as being worthwhile.

So this toxic masculinity or the concept of toxic masculinity is a shallow perception on basic issues about the human condition. Basic issues on what or are drives for survival and subsequent desires. What people call “toxic masculinity” is the warping of perception on key conceptual virtues such as “honor” in a insecure person or one with a deep-seated lack of self confidence. This warping of ideals may happen in both men in women, but it expresses itself in men more violently since me are made are evolutionary speaking generally more aggressive than women. It's not masculinity that becomes toxic but the individuals perspective of how they need to express themselves as a person of worth that is problematic. The desire to prove oneself of value in the eyes of others, finding happiness in the perceptions of others and needing to keep it.

Additionally, and lastly, the concept of toxic masculinity lumps in assholes whose only means of expressing themselves is through strength,as a symptom of collective masculinity gone wrong rather than the understanding of the general nature of that individual. Just like any psychopath can rationalize

himself under the cloak of any political or religious ideology, assholes can use masculinity to justify their unreasonable behavior. The irony of course is they clearly betray the concepts they claim to be expressing.

The reason IMO these issues aren't' as glaring with women, is that physical actions are not subtle actions, they are clear for everyone to see. Women do not generally express themselves through overt physical actions. Women in general don't express their issues through strength because its naturally easier for them through other means